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[Apr. 19th, 2005|01:55 pm]
Wheelock's Latin


what's the deal with the deponent verbs?

how do you form imperfect/future with 3rd and 4th conjugation deponent verbs? i'm having trouble comprehending what the connecting vowel is supposed to be and wheelock kind of just assumes that you're figure it out from the 1st and 2nd conjugation templates that he gives.

thank you in advance. i have a latin exam on thursday and it's worth 50% :S

[User Picture]From: schroedingrscat
2005-04-19 11:14 am (UTC)
Oooh, who's your Latin prof? I was in LAT100 until December so I'm curious even though I'm a big old quitter.
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[User Picture]From: __rhinoceros
2005-04-19 11:30 am (UTC)
dinkova-bruun. you had toporovski right?
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[User Picture]From: schroedingrscat
2005-04-19 11:35 am (UTC)
Unfortunately yes. Guess, inference, or did you hear something bad about me? I can definitely see the latter happening ;)
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[User Picture]From: __rhinoceros
2005-04-19 11:54 am (UTC)
i remember near the beginning of the year you either posted or commented on a post about getting latin study buddies. and you mentioned your prof.
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[User Picture]From: ukelele
2005-04-19 04:48 pm (UTC)
You form imperfect and future exactly the same way you would've formed it if they were normal passive verbs.

So, imperfect...stem + vowel (a, e, e, ie, ie respectively) + ba + r, ris, tur, mur, mini, ntur.

Future...as you remember, the future is formed differently for 3rd/4th than it is for 1st/2nd. Remember how the actives had am, es, et, emus, etis, entur? So the passives & deponents end with ar, eris, etur, emur, emini, entur. (Yes, this does mean that the 2nd person future and the 2nd person present are indistinguishable. Unless your test has macrons! Seekrit trick: the future has a macron; the present doesn't.)

(I don't know how exactly you were taught to form the beginning of future tense verbs. I find it easiest to think "1st principal part minus last letter (or last 2 if it's deponent)", because then I get the i when I need it (experiar, ingrediar) and I don't when I don't (proficiscar).)
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[User Picture]From: __rhinoceros
2005-04-19 10:23 pm (UTC)
i still need to pick through that nice explanation... argggh stupid deponents! I CURSE THEE.

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